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January 17, 2007

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Niall

Labour market participation in Ireland is now estimated at approx. 70%, which on the face of it looks rerasonable, if well below the UK, Holland and the Scandinavian states. However if you factor in the inflow from Eastern Europe, you are probably looking at a participation rate of at or below 60%. It is impossible to see any major changes in poverty levels without changing this pattern.

The current Government has been happy to ignore them, throw a few €uro their direction as long as they remain quiet. Second level participation remains poor in many areas, in particular among boys. Level cert. levels on the northside of Dublin are still below where more prosperous parts of the city were 25 years ago.

State spending is only a tiny part of the solution. And clearly SW spending is absolutely not part of the problem, other than perhaps Child Benefit.

Michael

Yes. We are probably not reading the unemployment figures right and focusing on participation rates is a better measurement. And the situation regarding school-leaving is desperate in some parts. The problem is that spending money in situations crying out for institutional reform and strategies will not solve it as you say (I hope to address this particular point on child income poverty in a subsequent post).

However, regarding Social Welfare spending being 'absolutely not part of the solution', there is this issue. According to the CSO's EU Living Survey (and this is of the top of my head) - about 40% of the population would be below the 'at-risk' poverty line without social transfers. And that would be a problem.

Niall

Point taken. However I did emphasise the whole issue of child related payments, which I think are crucial to ensuring participation, both child benefit and FIS. There is a need to develop payments through these sources.

On the issue of poverty and SW transfers, much of this issue is around pensions and clearly there is a need to increase pension payments. However, I was dealing with those of working age in my comments.

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