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March 09, 2009

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Tipster

And the mandarins in Depts Finance and ETE deserve some of the kicking that FF is getting for the advise they seem to be offering. Well, they deserve their own dose of it.

Fergus O'Rourke

Are any of the countries you cite comparable in terms of being small open economies ? No, I suggest.

You say "we have to find ways to raise consumer spending". Why ?

In a closed economy, the answer is easy. But Ireland is not such an economy.

And IMHO we are better off without the mad consumerism of the last decade. The fall in new car sales is for me A GOOD THING.

James

Re: small open economies, there was a report in yesterday's FT about a Norwegian stimulus package. Plenty of links if you google for it. Would be interesting to know what Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal (our fellow Eurozone bad boys) are doing.

Michael Taft

Fergus, no, none of the countries in the G-20 are small economies. But as James points out, Norway is promoting stimulus, along with others. The question is, rather, what countries are trying to cut their way out of the recession. I haven't come across any (which doesn't mean there aren't any). However, I will root around and see what othe small economies are doing.

The reason why we need to reverse the slide in consumer spending is because 50% of our GDP is made up of consuer spending. And its not just spending on imports (actually business imports more goods and services for re-export in new goods and services). It's both goods and services. Most enterprises sell into the domestic economy. If private consumption gets hit, there's less sale revenue which results in wage cuts, short-timing and redundancies. And down and down we go.

You're right, though, about some private expenditure. The Government should not bring in a car scrappage scheme because replacement cars are, of course, imported. Any stimulus - which should come through primarily investment and associated job creation/retention - will have to be carefully crafted for a small open economy. Just because we are such an economy is not ipso facto an argument against stimulus, only dumb, inappropriate stimulus.

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