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September 11, 2012

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Colum McCaffery

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Pat

Great that you included the link to the data set. It's probably useful to mention that you've calculated Ireland's data for 2011 (as it isn't available on the data set - a link to that would be great) and that the EU average figures are your calculations differing from their average (as they are using total spending then dividing by total population - depending on your data source I'm guessing 7,621 is spurious accuracy and 7,600 should be the precision you should be using). Using their EU average figures and your calculations we are already at the EU average for spend. Its interesting data.

Michael Taft

Thanks for that Pat. I forgot to link to the EU Statistical Annex for the Irish population figure for 2011. Eurostat does provide the 2011 Irish spend on public services (provisional). Any change in the final figure would be marginal. The EU Statistical Annex provides population. That gives us the figures to make the per capita calculation.

As to the averages, the databank provides the weighted average. However, given that Germany and Spain make up nearly a third of the EU-15 population, weighted averages obviously reflects disproportionately what's going on in those countries. I took an arithmetic average.

The difference can be seen in this example. Say there are five countries, four of which have 20 people and the fifth which has 100 people. The four countries spend a €100 per capita on services, while the fifth spends €20. The unweighted average spend of the five countries comes to €22. That certainly doesn't reflect the reality of the four countries and suggests they are massive over-spenders when in fact they spend the same as 4 out of 5 countries. The arithmetic average would be €82. This is closer to the reality of the four countries and show that the fifth country is the under-spender.

You can make an argument that Ireland is average spend country. But given that we would have to increase our spending to reach the levels of 8 countries (€ per capita), or 10 countries (PPP per capita), or 12 countries (spend as a % of GDP) - I think it might be a hard argument to sustain.

Just to note: 7,621 is the arithmetic average of the spend by other countries. 7,600 is just rounding up.

Michael Taft

Apologies, Pat. In my example above, the fifth country should read €10 spend on public services.

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