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November 16, 2009

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MichaelBurke

A very valuable post Michael.

Regarding the negative effect on taxation receipts from a deflationary fiscal stance, the Pre-Budget Outlook does have some helpful information regarding the tax take.

The scale of the decline in taxation revenues (the primary source of the rise in the deficit, not increased spending), has been a surprise, even taking into account the severe fall in activity. In the PBO, (p.20), "The usual expectation is that a 1% change in nominal growth would lead to a 1.1% change in tax revenues. But in this recession a 13% decline in GDP has led to a 32% decline in taxation revenues."

While disastrous for public finances, this data is useful in terms of analysis. The PBO states that there is an assumption that the usual 1: 1.1 ratio will reassert itself overtime. But, from this analysis we can assume that a €4bn cut in spending (equivalent to approx 2.5% of GDP, or a higher 2.85% of GNP, for those that insist o that measure) could lead a decrease in taxation revenues of up to 6.15% (based on the recent ratio) or, at least a 2.75% decline in taxaion revenues (the usual, assumed ratio). Or, given that the return to the usual ratio, if it occurs, will be a process, not an event, somewhere in between those two percentages.

The PBO forecast assumes a tax revenue of €32bn in 2009. A 2.75% decline would be a fall of €880mn, while a 6.15% decline would be a fall of €1.968bn. Using GNP (the PBO doesnt state which it is using), these losses rise to €912mn and €2.245bn respectively.

Even this is, as you say, a static assessment, using only the direct effects of a cut in government spending on the tax take, and not including the wider deflationary effect of falling government spending on the wider economy.

Taking this factor into account would multiply the loss to the Exchequer from the cuts in government spending to such an extent that no savings at all would be made well before the 6.15% current ratio is reached.

As a wise man once said; Cuts Are Not The Same As Savings.

Proposition Joe

@MichaelB

I suspect the 13:32 ratio of declines in output versus tax is an artifact of the disproportionate hit taken by the construction and property transacting industries. The activity in this sector has an unusually high tax yield (CGT on site sales, plus VAT on the houses built on the sites, plus stamp duty on trader-uppers, plus VAT on all the furnishing & decor, plus income tax on everyone getting a taste of the action).

Its unlikely IMO that a €4bn cut in public spending would have anything like the same impact on tax revenues.

Pat Donnelly

Are these scenarios factoring in the need for repayment of a mere 54,000,000,000 and associated debt costs of 5 to 10% in real terms over twenty years?
Nama of course! The Rolls Royce of bank and land bailouts!

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