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June 11, 2012



Good post, Michael. I should note that some of what was posted was included in the 1937 Constitution - although, they have clearly been forgotten about. Some highlights:

Article 45

2(i). "That the citizens (all of whom, men and women equally, have the right to an adequate means of livelihood) may through their occupations find the means of making reasonable provision for their domestic needs."

2(ii). "That the ownership and control of the material resources of the community may be so distributed amongst private individuals and the various classes as best to subserve the common good."

2(iv). "That in what pertains to the control of credit the constant and predominant aim shall be the welfare of the people as a whole."

If the last one does not make you laugh, then it should make you cry.

The above article expressly prohibits any of these from being considered by a court, but they are a 'general guideline' for the Oireachtas.

I would like to see the Irish Fiscal Advisory Council analyse whether a given budget effects any of these targets, along with seeing if a budget will meet fiscal targets. I do not see the reason why the Council's current remit is so narrow when we have these rules in the Constitution.

Diarmaid Ó Cadhla (@gratire)

'The Peoples Convention' ( already exists, formed following much discussion among citizens and various initiatives that emerged over the past few years.

The focus of The Peoples Convention is the Empowerment of the Citizens, unrestricted, as the deciders of the policy of our state. It has much of the spirit you describe, but it's focus is on the lack of democracy, we are a people ruled OVER rather than ruling.

Yes we should advocate for democracy in economy and the right to work, proper health services etc., but right now the people get to decide nothing.

Perhaps your suggestion of having a mirror 'convention' beside the Government one is to 'influence' the policy debate? But isn't this the problem, the people shouldn't be relegated to influencing anything, we should be deciding the policy, that is what democracy is.

Our democracy has been usurped since the foundation of the state. The political party system, based on service to vested interests as it is, is one of the big factors which effectively excludes citizens from the democratic process.

We citizens should unite without any pre-condition as to policy preferences, in order to empower ourselves, then we can decide all through our own democracy.

There is much talk of reforms, but everything the people need to empower ourselves already exists in Bunreacht na hÉireann. First we need empowerment, then we can have any other reforms we want, but, without empowerment any reforms are meaningless, as we will still be ruled over.

We, as a people, just need to act differently.

We must stop handing our mandate over to any political party, they are all just private member clubs of vested interests themselves.

Art. 16.2.1 of Bunreacht na hÉireann says: "Dáil Éireann shall be composed of members who represent constituencies determined by law." It makes no mention at all of 'party' and makes no provision for individuals to represent themselves - we need to implement this.

The Peoples Convention has described HOW the people can empower themselves, through Selecting, Electing, Mandating, Check-up and possible Recall of TD's who are contracted to 'represent constituencies'.

We need no "reputable group", "civil society" or mirroring of a "charade" - we need citizens to organise, on a constituency by constituency basis to implement the constitution and to assert our entitlement.

So, Mr. Taff and fellow citizens, I invite you to look at the ideas of The Peoples Convention, make them your own, and implement them.

Yes, let's make it happen!

Let's work for the Empowerment of the Citizens!

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