Minister Brian Hayes was also at it – claiming that tax increases were effectively over. Minister Lucinda Creighton backed up her party colleague. And Minister Richard Bruton also warned against further tax increases on high-income groups; again, because of that ol’ investment problem.
Do we see a pattern? If we increase taxes on high-income groups or the business sector we will lose out on investment. How valid is this argument?
Let’s bottom-line this: if maintaining a low-tax regime, whether on high-income earners or the business sector, is the key to ensuring high levels of investment in the economy, then that policy has already been judged to be an utter and absolute failure.
Okay, now let’s work through some arguments.
First, Irish high-income earners pay a lower tax rate than equivalent earners in most other EU-15 countries. The following is from the OECD Tax and Benefits Calculator, using a two-income household example where one person is earning twice the average wage and another person earns 1.67 the average wage. In Ireland, this equals €118,750.
As seen, Irish high-income earners are taxed at relatively low-rates. We’re right down there with other peripheral countries (with the exception of Italy) and low-tax, high-poverty UK. There has been tax increases since 2010. The current rate is 33.7 percent but we don’t know to what extent other countries have increased taxes. We should also note that the above doesn’t include local taxation (property taxes, service charges, etc.) which are higher in a number of other countries. Nor does it include tax breaks (these are just headline figures).
In effect, in 2010 two-income earners would have to pay over €6,000 more a year to reach the average of other EU-15 countries; they would have had to pay nearly €12,000 more to reach the average of other small open economies; and they would have had to pay over €15,000 more to reach German levels.
Second, Irish corporate tax rates are ultra-low compared to other EU-15 countries.
Of course, these are headline rates. Effective tax rates in other countries (after tax breaks, allowances, etc.) would be lower than the rates above. But so would it be in Ireland – especially given that Google’s tax rate (as a percentage of gross profits) was less than one percent.
Third, employers’ social insurance (i.e. PRSI) in Ireland is even lower relative to other EU-15 countries. We are ultra-ultra-low.
Yes, there we are again – at the bottom.
So what do we have?
All those other countries are doing what we have been warned against: higher tax rates on high-income earners and business. This is the type of thing that would devastate economies according to Fine Gael. Obviously, investment must be flooding out of those countries. In fact, with such high tax/insurance rates, they must be facing into an investment crisis.
So what level of investment does the IMF project for these countries by 2017?
Wow. Ireland has followed the Fine Gal prescription for higher investment and what do we find? Ireland will have the lowest level of investment in the EU-15. The average investment rate in other EU-15 countries is will be 19.5 percent in 2017; the Irish rate will be almost half. All those countries with higher tax rates on profits, income and payroll – they will have twice the level of investment.
In short, low-tax Ireland is facing into an investment crisis.
So is higher taxation a bar to high investment levels? Obviously not; otherwise Ireland would be a league leader. In fact, higher taxation can induce higher levels of investment – through higher public investment, public consumption and progressive social transfers. That is what we are seeing in other countries.
In Fine Gael’s Ireland, however, we must not scare the high-income and corporate horses with talk of higher taxation. Otherwise, they won’t invest.
But as we see, they’re not investing anyway. Beyond the insipid tax debate lays a more fundamental question: what is wrong with our economic model?
That is one of the key questions for 2013.
Interesting Piece alright. Do you have investment as a % of GNP by anychance?
Posted by: Simon | January 08, 2013 at 05:19 PM
Simon - I don't have any estimates for nominal GNP in 2017. The Government projects GNP to be 78.4 percent of GDP. So, working from the IMF projections for that year, Irish investment would be 12.7 percent of GNP (10 percent of GDP).
If we use the Fiscal Council's hybrid GNP measurement - which attempts to reconcile problems with both GDP/GNP measurements - then Irish investment would be 11.5 percent.
Anyway it is measured, Ireland will still be a low-investment economy.
Posted by: Michael Taft | January 08, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Ah Jaysus, Michael, you're not even trying to compare like with like.
The vast majority of the EU-15 countries with higher average tax rates for high earners than Ireland also have much higher average earnings than Ireland, up to 56% higher in fact.
In each case, the definition of high earner is made in respect of the *local* average wage.
Not based on PPP, no attempt to take into account different wage-level distributions that may skew the averages, nor even any level-setting compared some absolute measure of high earnings ... just a straight multiple of the local average.
Posted by: tells.it.like.it.is | January 08, 2013 at 09:53 PM
tells.it.like.it.is - please feel free to post your own estimations in the comment section here.
Posted by: Michael Taft | January 09, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Michael,
One practical question I have in relation to the chart based on the OECD Calculator - why did you calculate it on the basis of one partner earning twice the average wage, with the other earning 1.67 times the average wage?
To answer your last question, our economic model is based on a regressive income tax and social insurance contribution regime, together with a Government-approved system of transnational money-laundering. Never mind that groups such as ISME, SFA and IBEC are indulged in their frequent assertions to the effect that things would be super-duper again if banks lent easy money to their members, while insisting simultaneously that their employees and customers should suffer.
Posted by: Ciaran | January 09, 2013 at 09:38 PM
Sorry Michael,
You must be wrong, because Brian Hayes was on the radio last week and he said that we already had the most progressive taxation system in the world, and nobody in the studio even questioned him on it so it must be true.
So obviously the facts are wrong.
Posted by: 6to5against | January 09, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Ciaran - I used this formula as this is produces the highest work income for a household in the OECD calculator. It only goes up to 200 percent of average wage for a first earner and 167 percent of the average wage for a partner/spouse.
6to5against - I never question my betters. I only seek to learn from them.
However, on the issue of 'progressivity' I will be doing up a post in the near future on this issue.
Posted by: Michael Taft | January 10, 2013 at 09:38 AM
Michael - thanks for clearing that up for me.
6to5against - are you implying something scurrilous about the conduct of our broadcasters, who, as we all know, are union-infested and 'left-leaning'?
Posted by: Ciaran | January 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM
As for our (Ireland) low Corporate Tax Rate - must check the figures but I think our corporate tax as a percentage of our tax take is around 10-12%? but in Germany it is only about 5%. While this is only one factor, I think it sounds either our corporate tax rate is doing well or Germany's isn't.
I think if our government actually tried to tighten a few loopholes in our corporate tax laws and let companies like Google/Intel/HP/Facebook/Ebay etc pay more tax in Ireland while still giving them tax breaks and the lower rate we could still keep their inward investment while maybe getting more tax from them
Posted by: David Crowley | January 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Seamus Coffey has responding to this post on his blog.
It's social insurance is where we are lower, not tax (we are slightly above average)
http://economic-incentives.blogspot.de/2013/01/is-ireland-low-tax-again.html
Posted by: Fintan | January 16, 2013 at 09:38 AM
Michael,
Time to repost all this, Michael. R. Bruton now says, not that there should be no further tax increases, because it is hitting investment, but that Irish tax is too high as is and is hindering investment.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/ireland/bruton-criticises-high-income-tax-rates-1.1352025
Posted by: Des Derwin | April 08, 2013 at 04:07 PM
That's right Des, the budget comes in two months earlier this year and the blue boys are obviously staking out their positions, so far they have held the line while Labour caved in, eg 300 euro cut to carers on 125 euro cut to TDs and Minsters. There is progressive extraction for you. Still ruling by fooling. Martin
Posted by: Martin Kelly | April 12, 2013 at 11:28 PM